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No Longer a Question of Truth?
Alan Freeman(앨런 프리먼),Andrew Kliman(앤드루 클리먼) 경상대학교 사회과학연구원(마르크스주의 연구) 2009 마르크스주의 연구 Vol.6 No.3
This reply to Simon Mohun and Roberto Veneziani (2009) points out that they have not addressed, much less overturned, our refutations of Veneziani’s celebrated criticisms of Marx and the temporal single-system interpretation (TSSI) of Marx’s value theory. Instead, they have filled their “response” with non-responsive irrelevancies. We argue that they do so in order to try to divert the debate without appearing to do so. Thus, the significance of their failure to respond is that the debate is over: Marx’s critics have run out of arguments against the TSSI. The reply criticizes Mohun and Veneziani’s lack of concern to arrive at the truth and their resort to methods that do not permit inquiry to arrive at truth, and it proposes, as a posiitve alternative, some rules to guide scholarly debate.
Moseley and Rieu’s “Useless and Erroneous Activity”
Andrew Kliman(앤드루 클리먼),Alan Freeman(앨런 프리먼) 경상대학교 사회과학연구원(마르크스주의 연구) 2009 마르크스주의 연구 Vol.6 No.3
Fred Moseley and Dong-Min Rieu claim that some temporalist refutations (disproofs) of Okishio’s theorem are unrealistic and therefore invalid. We argue that this criticism reflects their failure to understand what a refutation is. In order to refute a theorem, one needs only to provide a single counterexample - no matter how atypical it may be - that satisfies the theorem’s premises but not its conclusion. Moseley and Rieu also suggest that temporalist multi-sector examples arrive at conclusions contrary to Okishio’s because they assume (unrealistically) that some commodity is an very significant input into its own production. To show that this is not the case, we provide a counter-example in which the quantity of each good required to produce one unit of that good is less than 0.0001.
The Truthiness of Veneziani’s Critique of Marx and the TSSI
Andrew Kliman(앤드루 클리먼),Alan Freeman(앨런 프리먼) 경상대학교 사회과학연구원(마르크스주의 연구) 2009 마르크스주의 연구 Vol.6 No.2
2004년 로베르토 베네치아니의 논문은 마르크스 자신의 가치론과 이윤율의 경향적 저하 법칙뿐만 아니라 마르크스의 가치론에 대한 시점 간 단일체계 해석(TSSI)을 비판한 것이다. 이 논문은 베네치아니의 비판에 답하면서, 베네치아의 비판이 오류와 논리적 결함으로 가득 차 있음을 보일 것이다. 베네치아니의 비판은 논리적 엄밀성, 정확성, 그리고 진실(truthfulness)(이것은 “감(感)상 진실처럼 보이는 것”으로서의 의사 진실(truthines)과 구별된다)의 기준에 비추어 평가할 때, 그 어느 것도 타당하지 않다. 이 논문에서 논의하는 주제들은 다음과 같다: 첫째, 마르크스가 내적으로 일관되지 못하다는 비난에 대한 TSSI의 논박의 방법론, 둘째, 가격과 가치의 차이, 이윤의 원천, 노동시간의 화폐적 표현 및 이윤율의 경향적 저하 법칙과 오키시오 정리. A 2004 paper by Roberto Veneziani criticized the temporal single-system interpretation (TSSI) of Karl Marx’s value theory as well as Marx’s own value theory and law of the tendential fall in the rate of profit. This paper responds to Veneziani’s critique, showing that it is teeming with falsehoods and logical problems. When assessed in terms of logical rigor, precision, and truthfulness (as distinct from truthiness - “truth that comes from the gut”), none of his criticisms hold water. The topics discussed herein include: the methodology of the TSSI’s refutation of the allegations of internal inconsistency leveled against Marx, the difference between prices and values, the origin of profit, the monetary expression of labor-time, and the law of the tendential fall in the rate of profit and Okshio’s theorem.